Windows 8 Sucks on Desktop : Anandtech

[ManISinJpr ♦]

I am game for any experiments, as you know.. never one to miss an opportunity

Originally Posted by Free Radical Already aware of that, that's why I was reading up on the apis so that I could code one better of my own Sent from my Spice MI-410 on MIUI 2.2.3

[ManISinJpr ♦]

@Free Radical, I am using Win 8 since last night and I think I am underwhelmed...
what do power users like us do??
I agree that it is absolutely fantastic for touch experiences but what about mouse and keyboard users who have no touch !!!

Will have to play more and then comment further.

[vijayninel]

Originally Posted by ManISinJpr Here FR, have your Start button.. Imagine, if we make enough noise.. then MS will also add this to the final version or in one of the updates.. Start8 for Windows® 8 - Bringing back the Windows Start menu

It is not just the start button, but the whole of Metro is unsuitable for desktops and laptops. These kinds of addons wont help, Microsoft has to give an option to disable the whole of metro and have a normal desktop. Unfortunately, I dont think the people at Redmond are in a mood to listen to critics now. They will only listen to the markets when sales plunge and their stock price plummets.

[ManISinJpr ♦]

LOLz.. you make this sound like its the Apocalypse... !!!
From the analysts view Most laptops which will come out in the next years will be touch enabled !! so it is not that bad a situation, as for desktops, I hope that they too start empbrainf touch in some sort or the other.. perhaps a touch pad of 6"x 6" or greater size for old desktops and a touch screen for the desktops with support for mouse and keyboard...
This is the future we are looking at Old Chap

Originally Posted by vijayninel It is not just the start button, but the whole of Metro is unsuitable for desktops and laptops. These kinds of addons wont help, Microsoft has to give an option to disable the whole of metro and have a normal desktop. Unfortunately, I dont think the people at Redmond are in a mood to listen to critics now. They will only listen to the markets when sales plunge and their stock price plummets.

[vijayninel]

Originally Posted by ManISinJpr From the analysts view Most laptops which will come out in the next years will be touch enabled !! so it is not that bad a situation, as for desktops, I hope that they too start empbrainf touch in some sort or the other.. perhaps a touch pad of 6"x 6" or greater size for old desktops and a touch screen for the desktops with support for mouse and keyboard... This is the future we are looking at Old Chap

These are false prophets who dont know what they are talking about because their talk is not rooted in reality. For instance there were many such analysts in the 40's/50's who predicted that in future all travel will be by helicopters instead of by cars and every house will have helicopters. What happened to those predictions?

I think this is going to go like the New Coke marketing fiasco of 1985 which is now taught in business schools as one of the biggest marketing disasters of all time and why you should not play with the loyalty of your customers. Coca cola was forced to dump its "New" and replace it with "Classic". I suspect we will have a Windows classic in SP1 or Windows 9.

[vijayninel]

Ah .. here's the youtube video ..

The 1985 launch of New Coke - YouTube

[ManISinJpr ♦]

^^ LOLz.. now you are behaving like an analyst and relying on the projections and past too much

Personally Windows 8 is very good, what I feel it lacks is what I wrote in the previous post of mine..
I want the power users to feel at home....

[vijayninel]

Here's an interesting review I came across. Do watch the video and the forum thread. Windows 8 Beta is a UI nightmare » Forum Post by Draginol

Windows 8 consumer preview demo - YouTube

[ManISinJpr ♦]

This video highlights all the problems I am facing, the best video review I have come across..
they will have to make two independent versions... or let us make the decision what to choose..

Originally Posted by vijayninel Here's an interesting review I came across. Do watch the video and the forum thread. Windows 8 Beta is a UI nightmare » Forum Post by Draginol Windows 8 consumer preview demo - YouTube

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There I have posted this video on FB too and tagged all MS pages and Vijay too !!!

[Superfrag]

I haven't used Windows 8, (don't have a functional machine) but I really hope we have an option to use the Classic version only. If Microsoft doesn't provide it, I hope the community can do something and remove Metro.

It does make sense for Microsoft to focus only on Metro, the iPad has been such a huge success for Apple, it has even outsold all the PC's in the last quarter. I don't know about India, but here the iPad is so common, it's why Microsoft wants to get into the tablet space before Apple runs away with it.

Also, I really don't think that many people will upgrade from Windows 7 to Windows 8, most of the sales and license money comes from new machines being sold at stores, brick and mortar or online. I guess a huge amount of people and especially the corporate world will continue to use Windows 7 for quite some time. I mean, MS has set the EOL for Windows 7 in 2020, no?

[ManISinJpr ♦]

Hurraahhh !!
I have made the standard ORB function on Windows 8 !!
it is functioning as it should...

[vijayninel]

Excellent. So the issue can be satisfactorily resolved by customisation

[ManISinJpr ♦]

Yes it can be but to go back again to metro is easy but to come back to this is again a bit of dillydallying...
if a small customization can get back the ever so lovely orb then I think MS should add it themselves...

Now I can't seem to understand why we cant share the browsers on the metro and desktop mode and the apps in metro have no close button.. !!! or exit other than you going to the left top corner and drag down the window from there..

Originally Posted by vijayninel Excellent. So the issue can be satisfactorily resolved by customisation

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Here are some important keyboard shortcuts..
Keyboard shortcuts
Windows 8 is very hotkey-heavy, here are some of the shortcuts I find most useful:

• Windows key Shows the new Start screen (Metro).
• Win + type keyword Instant application search (same as in Windows 7).
• Win + D Standard Windows desktop. Also minimizes/restores all open windows in desktop mode.
• Win + Q Shows all installed apps.
• Win + W Instant search for settings.
• Win + F Instant search for files.
• Win + I Settings sidebar (control panel, network, volume, brightness, notifications, and more).
• Win + P Shows multi-monitor options, also useful for connecting an external monitor or projector.
• Win + X Power user shortcut menu (Device Manager, Control Panel, Command Prompt, Power Options, etc.).
• Win + Z Shows App Bar in Metro applications.
• Win + . (period) Snaps the current Metro app to the right side of the screen. Do it twice and it will snap to the left.
• Win + . (period) + Shift Snaps the current Metro app to the left side of the screen.
• Win + J Switches focus between snapped Metro apps.
• Win + Page Up / Down Moves full-screen Metro app to secondary monitor.
• Win + Left / Right arrow Moves and snaps desktop applications in that direction, or to a different monitor.
• Win + Tab Switches between open applications. Similar to using the left-upper hot corner with a mouse.
• Win + L Locks Windows.

and here are some Mouse corner key commands..
Hot corners
The Start menu is no longer there, but there's a hot corner that makes up for it (unfortunately on multiple screens it's somewhat of a pain to use).

• Lower-left corner + Left click Goes to the Start screen (Metro).
• Lower-left corner + Right click Power user shortcut menu (Device Manager, Control Panel, Command Prompt, Power Options, etc.).
• Upper-left corner Shows open window thumbnails, click to switch between them.
• Upper screen limit + Click & Drag on desktop Move to left or right to snap the current desktop or Metro app to one side of the screen.
• Lower-right corner Windows 8 Charm menu or Windows Aero Peak.
• Upper-right corner Shows Windows 8 charm menu.

[mrnikhilsudo]

Originally Posted by ManISinJpr Hurraahhh !! I have made the standard ORB function on Windows 8 !! it is functioning as it should...

This is Windows 8?????? IT looks just like Windows 7...where is the change?

[Free Radical]

Hey @ManISinJpr. You using the Stardock app or what?
Link me up too