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Old 19-11-08   #1
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So I ordered a Zero Dac... what next?


Not being able to handle the SHITTY audio output of the ABIT IP35-PRO onboard... I went ahead and ordered the Zero DAC.

I have heard the Zero DAC on numerous occasions and distinctly remember the melancholy feeling of the surpreme clarity and the fidelity of the sound. These are considerably under priced for the numerous functions which are built into the DAC and are a very good starting point for any Audio phile in the making.

I had a pair of Sennheiser HD555 but then they went to hell (the right ear cup came off, broken plastic) so I need to get a pair of headphones as well. My last pair lasted me a good 2 years... so I am expecting to extract the same amount/more usage of the new ones.

I like tight base but the sheer lack of it on the PC350 (which I recently heard as well... powered by the Zero DAC) is kind of a deal breaker.

The options boil down to:

DT880 PRO
DT990 PRO
PC350
HD580
HD280 Pro
HD650

Usage will be gaming/music/movies. So what do you guys think?

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Re: So I ordered a Zero Dac... what next?

HD650 ftw if u dun mind spending 330$.. Ive also read really good reviews of the DT880.. both cost the same.. but some reviews state that if u like the sound of Sennheiser then stick to Sennheiser. So ur choice
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Re: So I ordered a Zero Dac... what next?

Dayum, that is a sweet unit. Not much of an audio-kockey, so no suggestions, but just wanted to congratulate you on the DAC.
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Re: So I ordered a Zero Dac... what next?

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HD650 ftw if u dun mind spending 330$
However, at this price point a lot of other choices open up. For example:

DT990 PRO
DT880 PRO

So looking for some recommendations.

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Dayum, that is a sweet unit. Not much of an audio-kockey, so no suggestions, but just wanted to congratulate you on the DAC.
Thanks bro.
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Re: So I ordered a Zero Dac... what next?

the real competitors in the list are DT880 and HD650, i wud suggest read a lot of review and then buy what suits ur music taste......
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Re: So I ordered a Zero Dac... what next?

Collected links to a couple of reviews to go through:

6moons audio reviews: Beyerdynamics DT 880
beyerdynamic DT880 & HeadRoom Balanced Fat Pipe @ HeadRoom - Right Between Your Ears
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Re: So I ordered a Zero Dac... what next?

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I like tight base but the sheer lack of it on the PC350 (which I recently heard as well... powered by the Zero DAC) is kind of a deal breaker.
Well.. I disagree with ur assessment here. I know why you are giving this statement that the PC350 lacks tight bass .. well it doesnt lack tight bass.. it lacks boomy bass . To each his own . The bass is the PC350 is as tight as ive ever heard.. the only thing that adi felt it lacked was more bass ala the PC166.. I would say the bass on the PC350 is TIGHT and more balanced while the bass on the lower end headphones are more of an exaggerated bass. Again as I said.. to each his own.

Coming back to the topic.. yes at 330$ the options do open up.. but keep in mind that ur talking abt the top flight headphones from Sennheiser.. so ur comparing the top end headphones of either manufacturers.. so the thing about other options opening up just coz of the price isnt rite . Your statement comes across as if the HD650 are considered to be below the DT880 or DT990

Also the Beyerdynamic range of headphones are known to produce a more laid back sound or neutral sounding and mind you the bass on all these headphone ARE going to be balanced. Both the DT880 and the HD650 are known to produce amazing sound. It all boils down to how u like the sound of each. Which again you will be able to find out only if u listen to them. Hence most reviews suggest you stick to Sennheiser if u like the way they sound.

Go through HEad-fi.. there are many Beyer/Senn reviews.. mayb it might help u decide.

P.S.: The DT990 Pro are renown for producing a lot of bass .. I remember there being a review on Head-fi comparing these 2 headphones.. let me try to find it for u

EDIT: There you go with the link: http://www.head-fi.org/forums/f4/bey...w-pics-234214/

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Re: So I ordered a Zero Dac... what next?

Its quite a simple choice according to reviews ive read.

DT880/DT990 is a perfect blend between Audio Quality/Clarity and Bass response.

The HD650 isn't. Its very clear, but it lacks bass much like the PC350.
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Re: So I ordered a Zero Dac... what next?

Buy a new set of HD555s. Save money and get a tube amp.
DAC -> Tube Amp -> HD555 >>> DAC -> HD650/DT880.

Tube amps produce the sweetest sound known to mankind .
Here's Eric J. giving an eargasm to his audience. Tube amp ->celestion drivers.

Obviously he is virtuoso but still i hope you get the idea.
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Re: So I ordered a Zero Dac... what next?

Weird thing guys:

DT 990 PRO is cheaper (NEW BEYERDYNAMIC DT990 PRO HEADPHONES 250 OHM DT 990 - eBay (item 270305107339 end time Nov-25-08 13:13:22 PST)) compared to the DT 880 PRO (NEW BEYERDYNAMIC DT880 PRO HEADPHONES 250 OHM DT 880 - eBay (item 270305098867 end time Dec-18-08 12:58:54 PST))
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Re: So I ordered a Zero Dac... what next?

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Buy a new set of HD555s. Save money and get a tube amp.
DAC -> Tube Amp -> HD555 >>> DAC -> HD650/DT880.

Tube amps produce the sweetest sound known to mankind .
Here's Eric J. giving an eargasm to his audience. Tube amp ->celestion drivers.

YouTube - Eric Johnson @ House Of Blues 11
Obviously he is virtuoso but still i hope you get the idea.
The Zero DAC are known for their 'tube like' sound + I will eventually upgrade to a discrete amp + I want something better than the HD555 I had.
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Re: So I ordered a Zero Dac... what next?

I sold my HD650. Didn't like the sound much. I thought it'd improve with better amping and burn in but didn't. Tried it even with a 5000$ Leben CS600 which is supposed to have one of the best outputs out there. Its just way too laid back for my tastes. I'd not recommend it at all.
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Re: So I ordered a Zero Dac... what next?

More Tube madness.

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Re: So I ordered a Zero Dac... what next?

lol no prob sahil..
he's already ordered the dt880's
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Re: So I ordered a Zero Dac... what next?

Wait is this a DA+Amp or just a DAC because then the Beyers and HD650 are out of the question.Otherwise get them Darth Beyers if they come in your budget.
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