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Quick Spin: AMD Phenom II X4 965 + Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P

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It has been a fairly long time since I have been on and had fun benching an AMD setup.

So looking at the huge interest amongst techies in present generation Phenom II processors, I guess spending some time with a Phenom II setup was inevitable.


So I have a 965 BE and I am feeling nice - thank you very much AMD.

Now I need a good platform to unleash all that latent potential.
In comes the Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P, muchos gracias Gigabyte.



(BTW, This is not a review. This is just a summary of my experiences with this platform)

Processor Details

Originally Posted by AMD
AMD Phenom™ II Processors
Unbeatable multi-core value with AMD Phenom™ II processors. They deliver The Ultimate Visual Experience™ for high definition entertainment, advanced multitasking performance, and power-saving innovations for smaller, cooler machines that are energy efficient.

Features & Benefits
§ Smoother faster experience, even when running complex software application with native
§ Multi-Core Technology
§ Scaled performance to conserve PC power with HyperTransport® 3.0 Technology
§ Hear your music, not your PC with AMD PowerNow!™ Technology (Cool’n’Quiet™ Technology)
§ Prevent the spread of certain viruses and strengthen your network integrity with Enhanced Virus Protection (EVP)*

AMD Phenom™ II Processors Product Brief

Visual Experience

Live your life in HD. AMD Phenom™ II is for high definition entertainment, gaming, creativity, and beyond. With AMD Phenom™ II processors as the foundation, you'll enjoy a new level of responsiveness and visual intensity. AMD puts high definition computing within everyone’s reach.
Superior technologies for HD video. Enjoy a superior high definition experience for HD videos on you PC. AMD Phenom™ II processor are the powerful engine behind your fidelity, high definition video entertainment experience. Only AMD puts the Ultimate Visual Experience™ for HD video within your reach.
Enjoy entertainment beyond your media library. Get HD content online, offline, wherever you want it, however you want it. Your system can handle whatever you dish out - and serve it up on screen in full, high definition glory.*
Perfect chemistry. Combine AMD Phenom™ II processors and ATI Radeon™ HD graphics to really see the difference. Enjoy smooth video, brilliant videos and immersive games. AMD unleashes visual clarity and responsiveness for what you want to do.

Performance

Do it all. AMD Phenom™ II processors have the power to do it all. Featuring next-generation quad-core design, they crush even the most demanding tasks. So design it, render it, play it, create it, stream it, HD it.* With AMD Phenom™ II processors, if you can imagine it, you can do it.

Energy Efficient

Make a choice you can feel good about. AMD Phenom™ II processors were designed with energy efficiency in mind. Capitalizing on AMD's leadership in energy efficiency, they incorporate all of the latest technology that gives you performance when you need it and save power when you don’t.
Look for ENERGY STAR® with AMD. Thanks to AMD's power-saving innovations, you can count on machines based on AMD Phenom™ II processors for the energy efficiency you want and the performance you need.
*HD monitor required.
X4 965 Details

Sounds impressive.
But techies/geeks/nerds, technology enthusiasts in short, are a hard bunch to please. They have to have a hands-on experience before they form an opinion or pass a judgement.


Motherboard Details

Moving on to the motherboard.

Those who have owned and maybe lived their Gigabyte motherboards, especially the top-of-the-line models, will know that these things mean serious business right out of the box.
The board is the same, top quality stuff that I have been witnessing since the past few years.

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Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P main features :

AMD 790FX + SB750 Chipset
1. Ultra Durable 3 Technology with 2oz copper cooled quality, ferrite core choke, Japanese solid capacitors for lower working temperature, improved energy efficiency and enhanced stability for overclocking.
2. Revolution energy saving design with Easy Energy Saver technology
3. Supports socket AM3 45nm AMD Phenom II series processors
4. Advanced 8+2 power phase design for- more than enough supply for AMD high-TDP 140W cpu, plus extreme DDR3 overclocking ability and 45nm CPU highly efficiency support
5. Dual Channel DDR3 1666+ for remarkable system performance
6. 2 PCI-E 2.0 x16 interface with ATI CrossFireX support for ultimate graphics performance
7. 2 Gigabit Ethernet LAN with Teaming functionality
8. Power/reset/Clr CMOS onboard button for power users
9. Blu-ray playback supported by high quality 106dB SNR ALC889A HD audio
10. Supports Dolby Home Theater audio to enjoy a rich surround sound experience
11. Patented DualBIOS with dual hardware BIOS protection
12. 10 SATA 3GB/s ports and RAID.
GIGABYTE - Product - Motherboard - Overview - GA-MA790FXT-UD5P (rev. 1.0)


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BIOS

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Super Pi
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PCMark05 Performance

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Re: Quick Spin: AMD Phenom II X4 965 + Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P

3Dmark Performance

A 3DMark score is an overall measure of your system’s 3D gaming capabilities, based on comprehensive real-time 3D graphics and processor tests.


3Dmark06 tests your system's DirectX 9 performance.




3Dmark Vantage tests your system's DirectX 10 performance.



Gaming Performance: Crysis

One of the most awaited and visually stunning games of the present times. Crysis brings most gaming rigs down to their knees.






As you can see, the graphics card is the bottleneck here.




Gaming Performance: Far Cry 2

A hit or miss with gamers, Far Cry 2 still stands as one of the decent games to test the gaming performance of one's system.









Cinebench R10
MAXON CINEBENCH runs several tests on your computer to measure the performance of the main processor and the graphics card under real-world circumstances.

CPU @ Stock:


CPU @ 3800:



Max Overclocks (on AIR)

The following results were obtained with a Thermalright Ultra120 Extreme cpu cooler, coupled with an Antec 120mm 78cfm 2000rpm fan.





To extract a little more, something we all crave for, the gpu was overclocked to higher than stock speeds




Anything higher than this on CPU and it will not allow to complete the benchmark run.

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Re: Quick Spin: AMD Phenom II X4 965 + Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P

My experience with this setup.

Phenom II X4 965: As indicated by the huge excitement generated around the Phenom II line-up of processors, the X4 965 Black Edition being the premium flag bearer it surely does not disappoint. The processor is fast enough for most daily computing needs at stock speed and has a fair enough overclocking headroom. Thanks to the unlocked multipliers which make it a breeze to run it at higher than stock speed. There is a marked improvement in performance over the previous generations. Considering the combined prices of a retail 965 processor and a top notch motherboard (to extract the maximum), the AMD platform still falls behind in overall performance compared to an Intel Core i7 system selling at an almost similar price point. Last but not the least, AMD is slowly but steadily trying to reach the performance levels set by the new generation Intel processors.

Now MA790FXT-UD5P:
What's become the norm for Gigabyte motherboards continues with the 790FXT. The board reeks quality from every slot to SMD. The new heatpipe cooling system has a distinctly neat look and finish and the board has all the features typical of boards boasting the Ultra Durable 3 technology. Not once did the board even seemingly falter when put through it's paces. Anyone going the AM3 way should definitely consider the Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P before finalising their shopping list.
This boards gets my vote as one of the best boards out there for the AM3 platform.



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It will be nice to read this when it is finished. I will wait for it. Welcome to E........
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under pressure from companies to write a summary?, .........come on give us some sub zero scores,

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Wow, me too waiting for it to finish.
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Dude, I don't get it, why does AMD have lower performance in SuperPi as compared to Intel?
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Originally Posted by kauffmann View Post
Dude, I don't get it, why does AMD have lower performance in SuperPi as compared to Intel?
one of the reasons tri channel memory controller on i7...and architecture, its not just about the clocks, in the athlon hey days, even AMD had that advantage over P4.....
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Re: Quick Spin: AMD Phenom II X4 965 + Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P

Nice un-review Harshal sir.

Looking forward to a report/narrative of the LN2 session on that.
Originally Posted by thebanik View Post
under pressure from companies to write a summary?,
I don't think it's what you say banik sir.
AFAIK, the guys at the parent companies have been very nice and have been pouring in stuff steadily and continuously and he has been reporting to them directly for a long time now.
Heartfelt gratitude to them that they are supporting an Indian in a field hugely and supremely dominated by mostly non-Indians.

Also the Indian OCing scene, which has been pretty nascent till the recent past, is slowly picking up and more and more people are atleast growing aware of what overclocking is all about.
Almost everyone we meet on forums these days is an overclocker/reviewer.

But i do know that a few friends of his have been eating his brains since pre-E and pre-T H L days to post a bit more and a bit more often actually, if not a full-fledged review.
As sometimes even an average techie may not be that involved with hardware and overclocking and may not grasp the exact relevance of those numbers.
Plus it may help him in keeping track and an online record of his own work.
Seems like he finally chose not to ignore them.

Just my thoughts and i speak for myself- as always.
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one of the reasons tri channel memory controller on i7...and architecture, its not just about the clocks, in the athlon hey days, even AMD had that advantage over P4.....
That would be athlon64 socket 939 days- to be precise.
And it's primarily the architecture i think and maybe the way instructions are executed?.
Coz Core2 didn't have tri-channel and it still is way faster in superPI than any AM2 offering then.
Also the i7 chips have an 'integrated memory controller' now and that i guess adds the extra punch into it.
Core2 archi + IMC = pure pwnage.
Just as a socket 939 1.8Ghz A64 3000+ was as good as or faster than a socket 775 P4 3Ghz processor and also greatly OCable even on air-cooling, at much lower TDP, which made a P4 and even Pentium D chips look sissy in comparion.
And one can't ignore the fact that AM2 Athlon64 X2 and Phenom I were bugged by a severe lack of OCability and people primarily post nos at as high OC as possible, which made the AMD chips look very weak in comparison.
In certain real world cpu-intensive tasks, such as 3dsmax, the Intel quads and Core2 chips were very good but the Phenom chips weren't very far behind iirc.
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Re: Quick Spin: AMD Phenom II X4 965 + Gigabyte MA790FXT-UD5P

Originally Posted by BIKeINSTEIN View Post
Nice un-review Harshal sir.

Looking forward to a report/narrative of the LN2 session on that.

I don't think it's what you say banik sir.
AFAIK, the guys at the parent companies have been very nice and have been pouring in stuff steadily and continuously and he has been reporting to them directly for a long time now.
Heartfelt gratitude to them that they are supporting an Indian in a field hugely and supremely dominated by mostly non-Indians.

Also the Indian OCing scene, which has been pretty nascent till the recent past, is slowly picking up and more and more people are atleast growing aware of what overclocking is all about.
Almost everyone we meet on forums these days is an overclocker/reviewer.

But i do know that a few friends of his have been eating his brains since pre-E and pre-*** days to post a bit more and a bit more often actually, if not a full-fledged review.
As sometimes even an average techie may not be that involved with hardware and overclocking and may not grasp the exact relevance of those numbers.
Plus it may help him in keeping track and an online record of his own work.
Seems like he finally chose not to ignore them.

Just my thoughts and i speak for myself- as always.
You may PM him for any clarifications.
got it bikey sir, , do speak your mind more often, , its long time that you posted on E...... Infact you should become a reviewer honestly, your normal rant/suggestions/explanations are always pretty good to read,
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got it bikey sir, , do speak your mind more often, , its long time that you posted on E...... Infact you should become a reviewer honestly, your normal rant/suggestions/explanations are always pretty good to read,
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