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Old 16-10-11   #46
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OK... I am as far as it gets from a Apple fanboy. But we don't need to be offensive about it.
Don't bother with people like @Nexon. They aren't worth the time. Let them flamebait and don't fall for it. It's a waste of time.
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Re: IPhone 4S and IOS 5

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Don't bother with people like @Nexon. They aren't worth the time. Let them flamebait and don't fall for it. It's a waste of time.
Yup, only evangelizing apple products is worth the time here which even @Luciffer will realize in some time.
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Re: IPhone 4S and IOS 5

@Luciffer: Apple has hardly ever been the first at anything. All the way from the inception of the company. What makes them sell is their polished products and dedication towards a design ethos as set by Steve Jobs during the formative years of the company.

Mind you I am a die-hard anti apple camp guy (so much so that my sister accuses me of racism against apple). But at times you just have to stand back and look at the situation holistically. It's just that apple is the one on top whenever I do that XD.
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Re: IPhone 4S and IOS 5

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Apple fanboy? But indeed... Siri is great... and makes even me wanna buy the 4s
Depends on how you define word 'fanboy' Anyways here goes my review on Android tablet - My Nook Color, First Impressions, Pics and Review Let me know if you still think the same about me

Typical fanboy of
Apple : Oh... ! Who cares about bluetooth, I never needed it.

*Apple lets bluetooth transfer*

Wow, it's revolutionary !
Android : *Apple introduces some new feature*

Meh ! It's totally waste. I am not gonna use it OR I always had this on my Android.

*Google launches it*

We are always ahead
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So.. I am in your camp... but lets give credit where credit's due. For the first time.. Apple has something that makes me want it.
Siri.. from what I can tell is indeed really good. However as usual it's hardly an apple innovation... just an apple tweak. From what I can tell (Remember: I haven't actually used Siri till date) Siri seems to be an advanced tweaked version of Android's VLINGO.
Vlingo is Voice Command. Siri is AI. If you hear anyone saying "I had Siri on my Android, it's Vlingo" "Vlingo is pretty much like Siri" "Vlingo is FREE & awesome" - - - Android fanboy alert !!

If you have a Android phone, then check it right away. You have already seen so many Siri videos, you can check them.

Siri answers you back which neither Vlingo nor Dragon Go can do it. Try telling "fock Siri" to vLingo, you will understand what I am saying

btw vlingo is open source and it is also present for iDevices. So Android people blabbering they already have Siri theory is completely false. Cos iDevices also had it.

You can also read this - Why Siri just might work | This is my next... And yeah, whenever someone says positive things about Apple, they get paid for it. I read someone commenting even Anand Tech also biased !

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As for all the other Apple innovations on the new system... They already exist in the Android market:
For the sake of the sensibilities of the Apple fanboys here (After all we're on Their thread) lets not call these programs Stolen From.. but Inspired by... and so here they are:
I never say Apple invents things. They just re-invent it. Polish it, make it more usable. And also put few restrictions
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Re: IPhone 4S and IOS 5

The reason why there is so much hype around Siri, is that it isn't just Voice commands, it's a rudimentary AI.

MASSIVE, MASSIVE difference there. If the voice based apps like Voice Actions by Google and VLingo can't understand you, they will spout out nonsense or you will have to click on the mic button to re record it.

Siri on the other hand, will actually talk back to you and tell you that it/she did not understand you. Also, Siri doesn't assume the closest correct thing it can think of, it actually makes sure the request means something.

Again, the main difference between Siri and other voice based stuff out there isn't the accuracy, the answers, it's how they function, Siri tries to be an AI based Assistant, while Vlingo and Voice Actions are currently voice based assistants. They basically translate voice to text and input that directly, Siri translates voice to text and KNOWS what the text is supposed to mean and the correct manner of handling your request.

Also, the fact that you just have to speak normally is another huge point. With other software, you have to give commands in the beginning, i.e identifiers, like 'Navigate To', 'Call xx', etc. Not the same with Siri.
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Re: IPhone 4S and IOS 5

A good comparison between Siri & Voice Actions.

Head To Head: Siri Vs. Google Voice Actions

One thing I would like to add, Siri's personal nature cannot be underestimated. It makes voice commands a lot more easier to run.

Also, Voice Actions doesn't really do well with my accent. My cousin gets more accurate results, not me.

I haven't tried Siri on an iPhone 4S, yet.
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Re: IPhone 4S and IOS 5

@Ad1tya: Again... my respects. You guys achieved something amazing here.

@Nexon: I am on your side... But just had an objection to the way you put things.. we don't need to start flame wars/name calling here..

@avi : My apologies... I take back my fanboy comment That Nook looks sweet.. Is making my wife drool... she too wanted a e-reader, but we settled for the Notion Ink Adam's pixelqi display.

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@Superfrag ♥ : I want Siri...
But can you guys tell me one thing...
With iPhone5 reportedly on the way...
And the way prices in India drop when a new iPhone comes out... remember people will Forget that both came out nearly simultaneously... and the 4S is gonna become a part of the iPhone4 family..
Why should we then even consider this here?

Granted iP5 will be more expensive... but not like iP4s is going to be a budget device here.

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And yeah, whenever someone says positive things about Apple, they get paid for it. I read someone commenting even Anand Tech also biased !
Funny but when I first found E! upon arriving in India a few months back... my first impression was "Wow.. A less biased Indian AnandTech" LOL

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I never say Apple invents things. They just re-invent it. Polish it, make it more usable. And also put few restrictions
It's those restrictions that make me dislike Apple.
I don't mind when subsidised products like the xBox360 or PS3 does it... (place proprietary restrictions)
But WHY won't my premium priced 40K iPad2 not let me do even the most rudimentary things that I want it to? (Hide my porn from my wife LOL)
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Re: IPhone 4S and IOS 5

Siri and HD games will be the real differentiators and the show the true worth of the 'greatest iPhone ever' ..

All that power needs to be put to good use. I hope Apple doesnt rest on its laurels and sales figures and takes the next step in mobile computing and interaction.

Siri has shown a lot of potential and will definitively start a race, which company wins doesn't matter because we will get a better product at the end.
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Here's why: Did iPhone's 'Find My Friends' Just Break Up Its First Marriage?
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LOL... and I finally figurred out why your GF didn't want the iPhone4
Here's why: Did iPhone's 'Find My Friends' Just Break Up Its First Marriage?
LoL !

I sold my White iPhone4.
Apple asking for 12,500rs + 10% Tax for replacing my phone.
[Apple usually just replaces the phone and gives you new iPhone in place of replace]
And I'm not interested in investing again so much on that phone so better I sold it off and maybe buy some Nokia for her.
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Re: IPhone 4S and IOS 5

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Siri has shown a lot of potential and will definitively start a race, which company wins doesn't matter because we will get a better product at the end.
Couldn't agree more...
Here's the first example:
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It's those restrictions that make me dislike Apple.
I don't mind when subsidised products like the xBox360 or PS3 does it... (place proprietary restrictions)
But WHY won't my premium priced 40K iPad2 not let me do even the most rudimentary things that I want it to? (Hide my porn from my wife LOL)
But Beauty ! These devices are so beautiful !! That's why I compromised it with restrictions. IMHO SGS 2 is ugly & SE Arc is really awesome piece. Same goes with Nexus Prime, I didn't like the design. Samsung people should learn designing from Sony, IMO

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I sold my White iPhone4.
Apple asking for 12,500rs + 10% Tax for replacing my phone.
[Apple usually just replaces the phone and gives you new iPhone in place of replace]
I didn't get this. Can you explain your situation clearly ?

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But Beauty ! These devices are so beautiful !! That's why I compromised it with restrictions. IMHO SGS 2 is ugly & SE Arc is really awesome piece. Same goes with Nexus Prime, I didn't like the design. Samsung people should learn designing from Sony
That beauty iphone 4/4S not only comes with aweful restrictions but also special features like these Both an iPhone 4S and an Galaxy S II Take the Plunge, Only One Survives

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Did I said iPhone 4/4S stronger than SGS - 2 ?
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