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Re: I want to go micro.


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and is the smps similar to size in the apex mate? can i fit that??
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Re: I want to go micro.

Originally Posted by m-JeRi View Post
No way my 8800GT will fit..its a dual slot one....

What i want to know...or lets say..I NEED to know is my sound card... can i fit that??..no i guess ..
Well, you could use something like this:



But I don't see it being useful primarily because you only have space for one expansion card and this is too cumbersome and ineffective in terms of space utilization.
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Re: I want to go micro.

From where are you getting that awesome rate???

Originally Posted by m-JeRi View Post
I am getting D-E for 5750, 3 yrs warranty ... i think its ok..i guess??
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Re: I want to go micro.

My local dealer ...

why mate is it that good?.. if needed i can arrange a peice if u intd.

i specifically asked if its the D-E model... he said yes...

@stoned....

well i only need to fit the sound card... is it a viable and robust option ?
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Re: I want to go micro.

And one more thing chaps....

You guys are absolutely sure that this will perform exactly like my current config...

may be a less power in games though... Rest be exactly the same....

@zhoeb...

gtalk mate.
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Re: I want to go micro.

Originally Posted by stonedsurd View Post
D-E has wifi, G-E does not.
I think this info is wrong

The difference between two is :
- 2 sata in D-E but 3 sata in G-E (both has 1 esata)
- 0/1 raid in D-E but 0, 1, 0+5, 5 in A-E
- 6 channel audio vs 8 channel audio (according to newegg) but zotac us site says both having 8 channel
- both have wifi (newegg: explicit mentioned in as wireless lan and see the same in feature section for other; in pics both have wifi: in one its installed and in other its not but can be seen in accessory ; zotac website also have the similar pic)

So, its seems G-E is better choice.

power consumption:
http://www.silentpcreview.com/article943-page5.html

Also to lower the power consumption u can undervolt the CPU
one is using only 24W on q9400s
http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums...ic.php?t=55084

for case: SG05 is the best , buy from primeabgb

you don't need high end SMPS, u may buy FSP-250W 80plus gold rated from amarbir.
high watt SMPS is so over hyped ...check SG05 discussion on hardforum
300watt 80plus rated smps (bundled with SG05) is able to run q9550 with 8800GTX.
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Re: I want to go micro.

m-Jeri i switched to Matx due to all the reasons u mentioned. I have Giga G31 matx with Ati HD 3450 and a very compact old intex cabinet that i modded myself. If u are a casual gamer sell your 8800gt before it becomes 1k shipped, use G31 onboard. It plays HD flawlessly however on onboard graphics texts are a blurred but u will get used to it. Save the money selling 8800gt.
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Re: I want to go micro.

Originally Posted by m-JeRi View Post
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and is the smps similar to size in the apex mate? can i fit that??

yes that smps is the same size.. positive..


and sorry bout gtalk bro.. i was at a club lol went to hear sean tyas..

well chat up soon
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Re: I want to go micro.

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I think this info is wrong

The difference between two is :
- 2 sata in D-E but 3 sata in G-E (both has 1 esata)
- 0/1 raid in D-E but 0, 1, 0+5, 5 in A-E
- 6 channel audio vs 8 channel audio (according to newegg) but zotac us site says both having 8 channel
- both have wifi (newegg: explicit mentioned in as wireless lan and see the same in feature section for other; in pics both have wifi: in one its installed and in other its not but can be seen in accessory ; zotac website also have the similar pic)
Yup, I believe you're right. Newegg simply has different titles on the two pages.
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Re: I want to go micro.

let me express what i think about this

while a smaller machine will definately be neater and possibly consume less power, there could be some alternatives for a full size rig to make it look mind blowing and even make it merge with the room itself. something i have had in mind for long now is a wooden cabinet. can be made to look very elegant. it will easily merge with your furniture and cables will hide away if channeled smartly.

anyone agrees on the idea? going forward with it is a different ball game.
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Re: I want to go micro.

Originally Posted by push View Post
I think this info is wrong

The difference between two is :
- 2 sata in D-E but 3 sata in G-E (both has 1 esata)
- 0/1 raid in D-E but 0, 1, 0+5, 5 in A-E
- 6 channel audio vs 8 channel audio (according to newegg) but zotac us site says both having 8 channel
- both have wifi (newegg: explicit mentioned in as wireless lan and see the same in feature section for other; in pics both have wifi: in one its installed and in other its not but can be seen in accessory ; zotac website also have the similar pic)

So, its seems G-E is better choice.

power consumption:
Zotac GeForce 9300-ITX WiFi: Good Things Come in Small Packages | silentpcreview.com

Also to lower the power consumption u can undervolt the CPU
one is using only 24W on q9400s
silentpcreview.com | View topic - Quad Q8400S undervolt 0.925V 24W one fan need to be removed

for case: SG05 is the best , buy from primeabgb

you don't need high end SMPS, u may buy FSP-250W 80plus gold rated from amarbir.
high watt SMPS is so over hyped ...check SG05 discussion on hardforum
300watt 80plus rated smps (bundled with SG05) is able to run q9550 with 8800GTX.
Thnx for the reply...

mate the most important reason i want to go matx is my own case APEX MI-100. the Silverstone really looks crappy infornt of the apex... full holes and no matte... Apex wins hands down..for me atleast, dont flame me. .

and according to u the G-E is better than D-E ???....u sure??..

and abt the smps, will that fit in my APEX case... ?? it doesn looks like it will...

Originally Posted by Rockfella View Post
m-Jeri i switched to Matx due to all the reasons u mentioned. I have Giga G31 matx with Ati HD 3450 and a very compact old intex cabinet that i modded myself. If u are a casual gamer sell your 8800gt before it becomes 1k shipped, use G31 onboard. It plays HD flawlessly however on onboard graphics texts are a blurred but u will get used to it. Save the money selling 8800gt.
Lolz yeah...

how much will a Intel DP35DP + MSI 8800GT OC + a TV tuner ( Not Pinnacle some other brand, but good one not chep one.....which i never used will go for??

My only gripe is i cant use my XfI...as @stoned said going back to onboard sound will be murder for me.

Originally Posted by toxicdrift View Post
yes that smps is the same size.. positive..


and sorry bout gtalk bro.. i was at a club lol went to hear sean tyas..

well chat up soon
ok...will talk today then...

need to ask abt the CPU cooler and the sound card..

Originally Posted by stonedsurd View Post
Yup, I believe you're right. Newegg simply has different titles on the two pages.
so u also think G-E is better???

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let me express what i think about this

while a smaller machine will definately be neater and possibly consume less power, there could be some alternatives for a full size rig to make it look mind blowing and even make it merge with the room itself. something i have had in mind for long now is a wooden cabinet. can be made to look very elegant. it will easily merge with your furniture and cables will hide away if channeled smartly.

anyone agrees on the idea? going forward with it is a different ball game.

Its a excellent idea. but the time, money, strength put into will be very huge. Time is the issue here. .
i saw some pics on the web..like PC on the Wall... under a table... like all the table top is hollow and made of acrylic panels...
and the PC components are put in several places.all can be see.. and on table top is a panel of the connectors..awesome mod...
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Re: I want to go micro.

AND guys again.. please answer me...

Will the E6750+Zotac mobo will perform just like my old PC did???

and what is the mobo name??

in new egg it is ZOTAC GF9300-G-E and from the sites postes here by toxic it is Geforce 9300 ITX Wifi

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Re: I want to go micro.

i think it will.. aside from the gaming bit.. just slam on another 2gigs and max the ram / only issue is ur soundcard

as for the fsp psu.. make sure its A Type : SFX12V ... even the seasonic i sent ya is 80+ certi'd/ fsp is also good.. just find out the exact model no
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Re: I want to go micro.

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let me express what i think about this

while a smaller machine will definately be neater and possibly consume less power, there could be some alternatives for a full size rig to make it look mind blowing and even make it merge with the room itself. something i have had in mind for long now is a wooden cabinet. can be made to look very elegant. it will easily merge with your furniture and cables will hide away if channeled smartly.

anyone agrees on the idea? going forward with it is a different ball game.
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AND guys again.. please answer me...

Will the E6750+Zotac mobo will perform just like my old PC did???

and what is the mobo name??

in new egg it is ZOTAC GF9300-G-E and from the sites postes here by toxic it is Geforce 9300 ITX Wifi
The G-E is fine. It has everything the D-E does with an extra SATA port and some fancy-schmancy audio tack-ons.
Personally, I can't be arsed to bother with all the extra fuzzies so it doesn't make me a difference one way or another.

Like toxicdrift said, it'll do everything fine except gaming.
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Re: I want to go micro.

Yea mate... I am 90% fixed on the mobo... but the Sound card part is what ruining the build...
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