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Old 21-12-12   #1
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Death Penalty: The Only Panacea For All Ills?


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Death penalty is no solution in such cases because then criminal will deliberately kill the victim and dispose off the body in order to hide his traces. What required is stricter punishment and faster settlement of cases.

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Re: Death Penalty: The Only Panacea For All Ills?

What is the use of death/death by torture etc if the criminals are never caught or convicted at all? Even if the rapist is ever caught the conviction rate for rape in India is just 26%. The cases drag on for years and the victim has to undergo a second torture in the court process.

I am all for guillotines running on the streets of Delhi but we first need to fix the broken police and criminal justice system.
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Re: Death Penalty: The Only Panacea For All Ills?

Cases should be finished as fast as possible ! the only solution for getting fear in criminals and all other bad elements !
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Re: Death Penalty: The Only Panacea For All Ills?

The death penalty is the only panacea for all crimes; Adolf Hitler and Mao-Tse Tung agree!

Increasing the maximum sentence for a certain crime will definitely increase the cost to the accused, especially in a jury-less trial. In the year 2003, the cost of avoiding the death penalty in the courts of the Government of India was around Rs.10,000,000. Today, it could be nearly double that amount. This will serve as a deterrent to most people who can't afford the sum.
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Re: Death Penalty: The Only Panacea For All Ills?

Murders carry a death penalty and the rate of murder keeps increasing !!
so taht is not a solution !
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Re: Death Penalty: The Only Panacea For All Ills?

NO

Death penalty is a deterrent but not the solution.
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Originally Posted by ManISinJpr View Post
Murders carry a death penalty and the rate of murder keeps increasing !!
so taht is not a solution !
But murders will increase exponentially if death penalty is removed for murder.

But I too agree that we have to correct/improve the police and law system first, but removal of death penalty is not at all a solution, imho...

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Re: Death Penalty: The Only Panacea For All Ills?

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But murders will increase exponentially if death penalty is removed for murder.

But I too agree that we have to correct/improve the police and law system first, but removal of death penalty is not at all a solution, imho...
Death Penalty is awarded in the most exceptional (high profile) cases .. "the rarest of rare cases" to quote the Supreme Court.

The IPC allows certain crimes to have the maximum penalty to be given as Death .. though its very rarely use .. even robbery and drug trafficking can have a death sentence.

Removing death penalty from Murder cases will not result in an exponential increase in the crime ..
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Re: Death Penalty: The Only Panacea For All Ills?

Originally Posted by ManISinJpr View Post
Murders carry a death penalty and the rate of murder keeps increasing !!
so taht is not a solution !
Ever since the death penalty was awarded to terrorists, the rate of incidents of terrorism has decreased. Therefore it works quite well as a deterrent!

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Re: Death Penalty: The Only Panacea For All Ills?

I am not against the death penalty but rather judicious use of it, we have to set things right first. Not just impose penalties.
The cases take years and years to reach any conclusio nand that to me is the worst that can happen to any victim and boosts the morale of the offender. that is why we have criminals in parliament and state legislators.
The main thing that is wrong is judiciary and that has to be set right first.
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But I too agree that we have to correct/improve the police and law system first, but removal of death penalty is not at all a solution, imho...

You mean that thousands of confrontations of our armed forces in which thousands of people have been killed were not responsible?
Find out as to how many death sentences have been awarded to terrorists and how many have been killed by armed forces or police, you will get your answer !
The house has to be set right, the society and then teh country !!
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Ever since the death penalty was awarded to terrorists, the rate of incidents of terrorism has decreased. Therefore it works quite well as a deterrent!
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Re: Death Penalty: The Only Panacea For All Ills?

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Death Penalty is awarded in the most exceptional (high profile) cases .. "the rarest of rare cases" to quote the Supreme Court.

The IPC allows certain crimes to have the maximum penalty to be given as Death .. though its very rarely use .. even robbery and drug trafficking can have a death sentence.

Removing death penalty from Murder cases will not result in an exponential increase in the crime ..

HOW??

Awarding death penalty to many/all (except self defense or something) murder cases will definitely decrease murders... Of course its NOT a solution, but its still better than removing death penalty.

We have doors, gates in our home. But still rarely robbery occurs. So is it better to remove doors and gates in home, since its NOT a solution to stop home from robbery????

Simply said "Death penalty is NOT at all a solution", but removing death penalty will give more more more harm than good...

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Re: Death Penalty: The Only Panacea For All Ills?

Originally Posted by depean View Post
Simply said "Death penalty is NOT at all a solution", but removing death penalty will give more more more harm than good...
The death penalty isn't the only deterrent against Crimes ..
Do you know what percent of Murder trials end in a Death Sentence .. and why we use the term "rarest of rare:" ..

I think you are over stating with "the exponential increase" .. people wont turn into homicidal maniacs if the death sentence is removed from the IPC.
Improving Criminal Investigation and better/faster legal proceedings will surely deter any potential criminal ..

The IPC defines Death as the maximum punishment that can be awarded .. courts defines it as the "rarest of rare case" .. simple fact.


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Ever since the death penalty was awarded to terrorists, the rate of incidents of terrorism has decreased. Therefore it works quite well as a deterrent!
Really .. where did you hear that .. most terrorist activities can be tried under "waging war against the nation" which is most likely scenario for a death penalty to be awarded, since forever .. you imagine that terrorist who attack mostly in a fidayeen manner are scared of dying ..?
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Ever since the death penalty was awarded to terrorists, the rate of incidents of terrorism has decreased. Therefore it works quite well as a deterrent!

This is like saying, "You should not use mosquito repellents next summer because I used Kachua Chaap at my house in night and there are lesser mosquitoes in this shivering winter."
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