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Old 20-12-10   #1
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Icon14 The Big Debate: Symbian or "ANDROID" | Phone Specs or "OS"


First of all I dunno what actually I am really trying to put forward. But I ll try to explain it one by one (My requirements and market possibilities):

1. I need a mobile that performs decent in Camera quality. Here Decent means can wok as PnS Camera.
2. Since I have a budget of 25k and can spare a few more bucks if needed.
3. Since I am going to spend this much amount, the phone should perform well and stand market traits for 2 years at max.
4. I should be frank with OS performance. I ll be using apps for sure but also not that much. I ll rather interested in games launched for phone platform.
5. As long as the phone doesnt hang and there is no sluggishness, I am ok with the phone.


Please brothers please suggest a decent phone for me. I am really confused n I hope [E]onians will help me out here.

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Re: The Big Debate: Symbian or "ANDROID" | Phone Specs or "OS"

OS is more important and i going to be even more important in the phone wars.
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Re: The Big Debate: Symbian or "ANDROID" | Phone Specs or "OS"

Symbian or Android?.. That's not even a debate.
iOS or Android?.. Is a debate.

Galaxy S or Nexus S, should be your obvious choice.
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Re: The Big Debate: Symbian or "ANDROID" | Phone Specs or "OS"

Disagree.
Requirements should dictate your choice. If there is even a feature phone which can do what you need for cheap, there is absolutely no need for a "smartyass"phone.

Then again, requirements are cumulative. Next thing you want is start playing games or experimenting or wanting to do things your way. At that point, OS becomes important.

But of course Android is prettier yet also more expensive

iOS will only be as smart as Apple makes it. If you are the kinda guy who doesn't need a phone to stand apart and look smart, buy anything based on your requirements irrespective of how many people praise Android, iPhone or the likes
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Re: The Big Debate: Symbian or "ANDROID" | Phone Specs or "OS"

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Symbian or Android?.. That's not even a debate.
iOS or Android?.. Is a debate.

Galaxy S or Nexus S, should be your obvious choice.

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Re: The Big Debate: Symbian or "ANDROID" | Phone Specs or "OS"

I entirely agree. I think people need to look at their requirements in a more objective manner and not be carried away by the hype. lower end Symbian phones can offer you features that only higher end android phones can offer.


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Disagree.
Requirements should dictate your choice. If there is even a feature phone which can do what you need for cheap, there is absolutely no need for a "smartyass"phone.

Then again, requirements are cumulative. Next thing you want is start playing games or experimenting or wanting to do things your way. At that point, OS becomes important.

But of course Android is prettier yet also more expensive

iOS will only be as smart as Apple makes it. If you are the kinda guy who doesn't need a phone to stand apart and look smart, buy anything based on your requirements irrespective of how many people praise Android, iPhone or the likes
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Re: The Big Debate: Symbian or "ANDROID" | Phone Specs or "OS"

If Android : Galaxy S or wait for a while (or maybe add another 7k) and get the Nexus S from ebay.in.

If iOS : Save more and get the iPhone 4

if Symbian : N8

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Re: The Big Debate: Symbian or "ANDROID" | Phone Specs or "OS"

Try getting the Nexus S. It's your best bet when going with Android, the hardware is only as good as the OS that runs on it.
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Re: The Big Debate: Symbian or "ANDROID" | Phone Specs or "OS"

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Disagree.
Requirements should dictate your choice. If there is even a feature phone which can do what you need for cheap, there is absolutely no need for a "smartyass"phone.

Then again, requirements are cumulative. Next thing you want is start playing games or experimenting or wanting to do things your way. At that point, OS becomes important.

But of course Android is prettier yet also more expensive

iOS will only be as smart as Apple makes it. If you are the kinda guy who doesn't need a phone to stand apart and look smart, buy anything based on your requirements irrespective of how many people praise Android, iPhone or the likes
That line is getting blurred out real quick. Android phones are available very cheaply as well (as low as 7-8k and the new one from MMAX is going to be around 5-6k) and I don't think Symbian phones can really compete with them on the "low price" advantage front any longer..
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Re: The Big Debate: Symbian or "ANDROID" | Phone Specs or "OS"

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Disagree.
Requirements should dictate your choice. If there is even a feature phone which can do what you need for cheap, there is absolutely no need for a "smartyass"phone.

Then again, requirements are cumulative. Next thing you want is start playing games or experimenting or wanting to do things your way. At that point, OS becomes important.

But of course Android is prettier yet also more expensive

iOS will only be as smart as Apple makes it. If you are the kinda guy who doesn't need a phone to stand apart and look smart, buy anything based on your requirements irrespective of how many people praise Android, iPhone or the likes
Expensive?.. Nokia N8 is how much on the market?.. 24,000?..

I guess Cydia and Jailbreak just disappeared then.
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Re: The Big Debate: Symbian or "ANDROID" | Phone Specs or "OS"

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iOS will only be as smart as Apple makes it. If you are the kinda guy who doesn't need a phone to stand apart and look smart, buy anything based on your requirements irrespective of how many people praise Android, iPhone or the likes
You, my friend, underestimate the goodies Jailbreak/Cydia bring along with it.
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Re: The Big Debate: Symbian or "ANDROID" | Phone Specs or "OS"

You guys are entitled to your own opinions but please don't exaggerate things like there are no apps for Symbian when you have not even used a Symbian phone for more than a couple of days at most.
I daresay I don't know anything about an iPhone and truly speaking, I don't bother to know because of its price tag, but I do know a great deal about Symbian so I'll clear some facts for the rest of you folks.

I am certain that I get more work done with my 7.5k worth Symbian phone than I would ever get done with a 40k worth toy phone with a crap load of fart machine apps and stupid games.
I get the freedom to code stuff for me myself according to my requirements. Such an os is quite comfortably a "smartphone" os.
For instance, I am coding a python app which records cell tower info and can do custom actions based on the cell I am in.

I can multitask with my own programs/background scripts while I am listening to music AND browsing the net AND using GPS along with getting emails, chatting, remote controlling my pc from miles away, and catching a simple game or a xvid tv show on my cheap 5230. Dunno how things work on the leeter phones but I am happy with what I have.

I get email sync notifications using Nokia messaging as fast as push email notifications on BlackBerry (~10 seconds and within a minute of sending them). Did I mention that this service is free!

You get great voice navigation with Sygic/MMI on Symbian. Its almost as good as a dedicated GPS devices if not better. Compare that to the pathetic GPS on Galaxy S which costs 3 times the 5230.

Standard 3.5 mm jack with audio quality at par with the iPhones minus the proprietary connectors

And no FM in a 40k phone, are you friggin kidding me?

Yes, you can read ebooks perfectly even on a cheapass 5233, pdf, prc, pdb, djvu, html, txt etc. so big deal if you can read them on your classy phone with page animations.
Besides the games on an iPhone, I see it as nothing worth the premium.

The N8 is a complete multimedia device. You can literally connect a hard disk to the usb otg port and run 720p mkvs on an hdtv using an N8. Makes for portable media player and great for presentations. You can attach a pen drive to it anywhere to share data. It also has a dedicated graphic chip for quality game and video performance. 12MPs

Almost all s60v5 apps run on an N8 (friend has it, I gave him the apps) so there is no shortage of quality apps for Symbian too, especially the ones that count. Ofc, you fellows have never bothered about Symbian to look at the right places to know.

Most of the Symbian flamebait is overblown and primarily the fault of a few ignorant/misinformed fanboys with deep pockets who think only the most expensive phones are capable of providing useful functionality. This is not an insinuation towards anyone in particular but my general observation on several internet fora.

It is heartening to know that Android is making an appearance on budget phones to compete with Symbian and I am all for fiercer competition to drive prices down.
I am fickle for technology but limited by budget.
I seldom rationalize purchasing an overpriced toy for the sake of it, especially one which I'll throw away or break in a couple of months (quite the klutz that I am). So when I get an Android phone in my budget with ALL the features I want, I am all for it.

The rest of you can waste your time arguing for a stupid gadget for which you spent a crapload to a company who doesn't give a sh!t about you and feel on top of the world if someone agrees with you
I don't care. Buy whatever you like. You know your requirements well. But don't be too vain to believe that you know exactly what the other person needs.

Phew, that's a mouthful. I have said all I wanted to in this thread and this is what is my personal, probably biased perspective and please treat it as such and don't quote me. Make your own assertions and leave me out of this discussion.

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Re: The Big Debate: Symbian or "ANDROID" | Phone Specs or "OS"

Originally Posted by Ad1tya View Post
Symbian or Android?.. That's not even a debate.
iOS or Android?.. Is a debate.

Galaxy S or Nexus S, should be your obvious choice.
100 % agree with Adi... iOS or Android is a debate.

After using iOS & Android, cant even think of Symbian....
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I am certain that I get more work done with my 7.5k worth Symbian phone than I would ever get done with a 40k worth toy phone with a crap load of fart machine apps and stupid games.
As soon as you said that, I stopped reading your reply seriously.

Respect = Lost

Shows how much you really know about the platform.

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Standard 3.5 mm jack with audio quality at par with the iPhones minus the proprietary connectors
Obviously you haven't had a listen to the iPad, iPhone 4, iPhone 3GS or even the Galaxy S for that matter.

You call other people fanboys?.. Look in the mirror first.

You can compare all the crap with flagships all you want. Its like saying, My Nokia 1100 makes phone calls and sends texts. Why do I need a Nokia N8?..

The amount of crap you have written. I find it hard to even reply about all the flawed points in your analogy.

All I can say is, please be happy with your Rs.7.5k worth symbian phone. But don't talk like a Knowitall, because with your reply, its very obvious, you know almost nothing.

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